Jaden Smith and his mother, Jada Pinkett Smith, spoke on the Red Table Talk Facebook Watch video series Wednesday about their experiences with mushrooms and other psychedelic drugs. According to Jaden, magic mushrooms were taken quite normally in the family for mental health reasons and helped him deal with his depression.

Will Smith and Jada Pinkett Smith’s recent split had also greatly affected the family, where they seemingly all turned toward psychedelics to help deal with bouts of depression.

“It started as pure curiosity,” Jaden Smith said. “Not believing that mushrooms could actually, like, make you feel any type of way.”

The 23-year-old then experimented with psychedelics and said that he had an experience where he “understood what ego was for the first time.”

“It was always in my head, talking, telling me what I was and what I wasn’t,” Jaden Smith explained. “And for the first time, I had, like, an ego dissolution where I was like…that was the moment that really changed me.”

“You get to a place in your life where you’re blocked by something, whether it’s a trauma, whether it’s your emotions, your ego, and not being able to express yourself, and then I feel like psychedelics are a way to tear down that wall and see what’s beyond it,” the singer said.

His mother Jada and his grandmother, Adrienne Banfield Norris, also spoke about their experiences with plant-based drugs for medicinal purposes, warning that the desire to just get high is dangerous unless you are “guided” properly.

“I had struggled with depression for so long, you know, I mean, crippling depression,” Jada revealed. “So the thing about plant medicine is that not only does it help you feel better, but it helps you solve the problems of how you got there in the first place.”

Jada Pinkett Smith said that mushrooms and other plant-based drugs helped her overcome the sadness of her depression and split from Will. She also expressed the need for more Black therapists, because she said it’s hard to “totally understand when you haven’t had the experience.”

“You have to be really willing to confront some hard stuff,” she said about not taking psychedelic drugs lightly, “It’s changed my life.”

Will and Jada have received many an eye-brow raise over their parenting methods over the years, from how they encouraged autonomy at a young age and refused to punish his children no matter what they got into.

“As a father, you do not want a circle of safety with a 15-year-old daughter,” he once joked about what his daughter, Willow, would reveal to him. “I’m like, Baby, you need to start lying… You and your mom can talk about that one.”

In a separate revelation for the Smith family on Wednesday, Will Smith admitted that he tripped on Ayahuasca 14 times while in the process of getting over his break-up with Jada.

Given the psychoactive tea by a “shaman,” Will said that he “was floating deep in outer space… trillions of light years away from earth.”

According to XXL, he also visited a tantric sex expert and learned to appreciate how “beautiful” he was.

“If I’m this beautiful, I don’t need No. 1 movies to feel good about myself,” Will Smith wrote in his new book, a memoir simply titled, Will. “If I’m this beautiful, I don’t need hit records to feel worthy of love. If I’m this beautiful, I don’t need Jada or anyone else to validate me.”

Michaela Boehm, the tantric sex expert he met in Trinidad, allegedly snapped him back to reality, and he decided not to trip on Ayahuasca anymore.

“Look, you are Will Effin’ Smith,” the expert told him. “You are one of the richest, most beloved people on earth. If you can’t have the life that you want, the rest of us are screwed.”